About this episode

Martha and Ro reveal that they’ve both had “coming out” moments as mystics: people who seek to commune with, unite with, and understand “the mystery.” Both have had many inexplicable experiences, and they sustain a willing suspension of disbelief about all things magical. Ro urges listeners to remember that we don't have to reject science or reject magic, but we DO have to reject the idea that those things are mutually exclusive.

Show Notes

As Martha and Ro continue to emerge from hibernation after more than a year of cloistered pandemic life, they discuss how “coming out” feels relevant in multiple ways. This wide-ranging discussion—which touches on false eyelashes, javelinas, Oprah, and the rings of Saturn—took place during Pride Month, when many LGBTQIA+ individuals choose to “come out” about their identities. A generation of 17-year cicadas are emerging from the ground at this time, too. Our hosts then say that they’ve both had “coming out” moments as mystics: people who seek to commune with, unite with, and understand “the mystery.” Both Martha and Ro have had inexplicable experiences, and they sustain a willing suspension of disbelief about all things magical. Ro urges listeners to remember that we don’t have to reject science or reject magic, but we DO have to reject the idea that those things are mutually exclusive.  

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